Transcription: Well our exposure to it was definitely interesting. I mean the way it started was actually at a Star Trek convention more than anything else. What happened was we were at a few, I like Star Trek and I went to Creation Convention in New York City and I noticed there was more anime boots there than anything else. It seemed to be they were selling more anime than actually Star Trek stuff and I noticed that. I said to myself maybe there's something here and I started to look into the Japanese market I noticed the Japanese have a very big crossover when they say software they mean computer, video a ...